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PostSubject: Milan Outlaw Limited Street   August 16th 2010, 4:20 pm

Had a good time at Milan on Saturday, other than the heat. Dad had some fun and put down some respectable numbers in the 1/8 mile. Qualified 4th in the 14 car field. Lost in the 1/4 finals to the number one qualifier by a few feet (not bad considering dad had 134 mph at the 1/8 and Mike Brown of the Ohio Boys in his turbo car had 150 mph in qualifying. Mike won Norwalk's Outlaw Radial class on Friday night with a 7.30 against Dave Hinzman). Awesome racing, great track, and lots of cool people up there.

We'll be back.....
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PostSubject: Re: Milan Outlaw Limited Street   August 16th 2010, 4:27 pm

After hanging out at heads up and index racing for the last 3 or 4 years pretty regularly, I don't really care to bracket race any more....
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PostSubject: Re: Milan Outlaw Limited Street   August 17th 2010, 9:20 pm

The ole Z was getting em on the holeshot real bad but those turbo's pull so hard down track its hard to outrun em. We were getting some air under the frontrunners out a 150 feet or more, the track was hooking great for me an the 10.5 tires never spun. We'll give em Hell at the Trails this Friday night in the Nitrous Shootout.
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PostSubject: Re: Milan Outlaw Limited Street   August 18th 2010, 8:00 am

Hey Don tell me more about this Limited Street Class, sounds like fun ! still working on the NOS set up, going to try with a progressive controller, any recommendations ???
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PostSubject: Re: Milan Outlaw Limited Street   August 18th 2010, 6:50 pm

I don't think your spraying very much an shouldn't need a progressive, but it won't hurt at all to use one. Myself, without knowing your car up an personal, it has a tube chassis, with the motor fairly far back even if its the stock location, a Vette a the motors very far to the rear compared to other styles. That being the case I think you need to soften the "Hit" on your 4-link some an let it eat. The bars need to be out 50-60 or more an intersect low so it don't hit the wheely bars hard an it'll be quiker off the line an hold down track. The style of your Vette looks to me that it might have been a throttle stop car at one time running all motor an it was set up to hit the hard to get off the line an then idle for a minute then hit it agin. You don't want a setup like that with nitrous, it'll have more than 1000 ft lbs of torque instantly an hit the bars hards then blows the tires loose. How close am I ?
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PostSubject: Re: Milan Outlaw Limited Street   August 18th 2010, 6:58 pm

Heres the rules for Milan's Limited Street Class.


Anarchy Detroit Outlaw Limited Street
1/8 Mile, Heads Up, .400 Pro Tree, 32 Car Field, Sportsman Ladder, Lane choice goes to higher qualifier first round, and then the faster car from previous round.

Rear Tires
29.5" x 10.5 non W or 315 drag radial or smaller

Front Chassis/Suspension
Stock front frame rails and suspension required. Aftermarket control arms and bushings allowed as long as they bolt in stock locations. Rack and pinion steering allowed. Aftermarket coil over shocks allowed and aftermarket direct replacement struts are allowed, but must bolt in stock location.

Aftermarket bolt in sub-frame allowed. Must bolt in unaltered stock OEM mounting locations. OEM suspension configuration required. These bolt on subframes must be from a manufacturer with designated company part numbers and must be produced for the vehicle they were designed for from the manufacturer.

Rear Chassis/Suspension
Any type rear suspension allowed. Firewall must be retained and in stock location.

Engine
Any engine combination allowed. Motor plates and solid mounts allowed. Mufflers required for all cars except turbocharged entries. All nitrous bottles to be safety vented pop off to outside the vehicle.

Transmission
Any type automatic or OEM manual transmission allowed.

Weights
SB/BB N/A No Weight Limit
SB NOS 2500 lbs
BB NOS 3100 lbs
SB Turbo 3100 lbs
SB Twins Supercharger/Turbos 3150 lbs
SB Supercharger 3100 lbs
BB Supercharger 3200 lbs
BB Single Turbo 3200 lbs
BB Twins Supercharger/Turbos 3250 lbs
Leaf Springs - Subtract 100lbs



Heres a link to the Saturday Shootout Web Page Rocky.

http://www.milandragway.com/sss/index.html
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PostSubject: Re: Milan Outlaw Limited Street   August 18th 2010, 9:37 pm

Thanks Don, your right on about my car I will try your advise and soften the chassy up ....thanks for rules on the limited class !
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PostSubject: Re: Milan Outlaw Limited Street   August 19th 2010, 7:06 pm

Yep, I was guessing thgat it was hitting the tires on motor pretty decent an nitrous just makes em hit 3 times as hard, at Sunset ya might not notice it as much but on a real good track your just nailing the tires an blowing em off with spray.
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PostSubject: Re: Milan Outlaw Limited Street   August 19th 2010, 7:26 pm

Between 1.18 and 1.22 60ft times without the NOS havent tried the spray off the line yet , but the motor seems to like it at mid track drops about 4 tenths with a mild tune with less then 100hp shot !! just got the the info from speedtech about which jets to use, I was to big on the fuel jet ! looking forward to trying the right tune with a soft set up on the 4 link....Thanks for the info !!!
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PostSubject: Re: Milan Outlaw Limited Street   August 22nd 2010, 6:39 pm

here's some pics of the Millan Race, the first few pages are Jr dragsters an bracket cars http://motorcitynationals.com/v-web/gallery/v/08142010/



Here's the Z trying to take the tiny 29.5x10.5's off the rim, I had to add 10 more screws after that race because baby powder was puffing from the bead of the tire between the old screws down the sidewall, they were on the verge of coming apart. Had I not ran tubes the air would have been gone from both back tires for sure.
http://motorcitynationals.com/v-web/gallery/v/08142010/TPG_9131+copy.jpg.html


This car is Mike Brown's, a twin turbo LS motor, he was the winner an #1 qualifier. He beat me by a couple feet is all an sent me back to PA. Friday night at Norwalk he won Drag Radial class by running 7.30@over200mph, definatly a badazz fast car, but in the 1/8 my ole school nitrous junk worries em very bad !!!!!
http://motorcitynationals.com/v-web/gallery/v/08142010/TPG_9196+copy.jpg.html

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PostSubject: Re: Milan Outlaw Limited Street   August 23rd 2010, 6:28 pm

Mike Brown's car is a single turbo LS motor...I think it's a 106 or 114mm Precision.
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PostSubject: Re: Milan Outlaw Limited Street   August 24th 2010, 8:36 pm

His car is a 427 w/114mm turbo, the second fastest LS Engine in the country, here's a list of the fastest LS powered cars in the USA. I have raced 2 of em, Turley an Brown, beat Turley 3 times in Qualifying passes an lost one race, lost to Brown twice. Both got me buy a half fender in the 1/8. Griff will like this list, he's a LS fan.

10.5 Stock Suspension
7.11 @ 204 Paul Major, C5, Twin 91mm, Warhawk 454, ETP C5R Heads, PI intake, 3400, 315 DR
7.27 @ 200 Mike Brown, 98 TransAm,114mm, KUP/ERL 427, AllPro Heads, Edelbrock Intake, 3470, 315 DR
7.29 @ 192 Phil Thomas, Mustang, 106mm, VA Speed 438, LS7 Heads, Marcella Sheetmtl Intake, 3385, 315 DR
7.43 @ 198 Steve Turley, 98 Camaro, 106mm, ERL 427, AllPro Heads, PI intake, 315 DR
7.48 @ 190 Tom Kempf, Camaro, 106mm, Briggs 427, ETP Canted Valve Heads, Billet Intake, 3450, 295 DR
7.50 @ 194 Mark Koehler, Formula, 106mm, KUP/ERL 441, TFS 245's, Edelbrock intake, 315 DR
7.53 @ 193 Steven Fereday, Camaro, 106mm, LME 427, ETP 265 Cathedral, Edelbrock intake, 3400, 295 DR
7.68 @ 198 Jim Filipowski, Camaro, 106mm, URE 398, Edelbrock Super Victor, 295 DR
7.77 @ 190 Tom Smith, Formula, 106/83mm reducer, LSX 418", ETP Heads, Edelbrock Intake 3460
7.95 @ 177 Steve Smith, Formula, Twin TC78's, 427, TFS 245's, Wilson billet intake
7.99 @ 177 Brian Krzewinski, TransAm, 98mm, VA Speed 366, ETP 225's, Edelbrock S-Vic Intake, 3470, 315 DR
8.04 @ 179 Dwayne Schultz, TransAm, Twin gt4202's, Briggs C5R 388, Powerglide, 325 DR
8.07 @ 170 Michael Kostick, TransAm, Nitrous Fogger, Olsen 432", PI heads, 29.5x10.5 slick
8.11 @ 166 Martin Cox, Camaro, Nitrous Fogger + Plate, RPM LSX 430, GM C5R Heads, PI Intake, 275 DR
8.20 @ 166 Justin Smith, Camaro, Nitrous, 275 DR
8.23 @ 166 Ken Quartuccio, Camaro, Nitrous, ESP LSX 440, ETP LS7 Heads
8.23 @ 167 Andy Essary, TransAm, Twin 76mm's, LME 408, ETP LS7 Heads, OEM LS7 Intake, 28x10.5 Slick
8.29 @ 163 Matt Harlan, Firehawk, Twins, 348", Powerglide
8.32 @ 170 Keith Berry, C5, Nitrous, Proline 4xx", TH400, 28x10.5 slick
8.47 @ 164 CJ Peddy, 02 Camaro, iron 410", Dry Nitrous, 325 DR
8.47 @ 163 Brian Black, Formula, Nitrous, Baxter Racing 427, PI C5R Heads, PI Intake, 3400
8.58 @ 160 Aaron Ginn, Nova, PT 91mm, Iron 346, AllPro Heads, E85

Big Tire:
6.86 @ 205 Mike Moran, Twin 80mm's, W2W 352" 6.0 block
6.9x @ xxx Ronnie Duke, GTO?, F3?, 427?
7.00 @ 207 (owners name), Ute, Twin ___, Ute, , CV Kostecki 427, 317 Heads
7.60 @ ???, Willard Kinzer, C5, Twin 76's, KUP Dart 427, AllPro LSW Heads (need to confirm)
7.67 @ 182 Dave Underwood, Camaro, 94mm, W2W Iron 404, AllPro Heads
7.6x @ 187 Willard Kinzer, Cobalt, Procharger, 4XX LSX
7.77 @ 177 Robin Lawrence, Nova, Nitrous Fogger, Tompson LSX 440, CT Heads, GMPP Intake

NA List:
7.8X @ 16x Matt Hutter, 2005 GTO, 427", AllPro Heads, Wilson SM, DFI, Liberty 5-sp - ALL MOTOR Big tire
8.53 @ 15x Jud Massengill, 99 Camaro,
8.82 @ 158 Bobby Lashley, 00 Camaro, Proline 427", C5R Heads
8.8x @ 15x Matt (Michigan guy)
8.9x @ 15x Tom Volkos, 99 Firehawk, W2W 445?", TH400, 28x10.5 Slick
9.11 @ 149 Jon Moyers, Camaro,
9.13 @ xxx ___, Vega, Rock Daddy user
9.3x @ xxx Kurt Urban, GM Camaro, iron 402"
9.xx @ xxx Val Juncaj, 95 Firebird,
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